Rob snow posted on Aug. 15, 2025 at 10:49 AM
Im the complete opposite. I loved this run. One of my comfort food collections. Mostly because lot of the arcs are Beetle-centric. Hes the hero in most of the conflicts. And Boosters personal trials are deep

Brandon posted on Aug. 15, 2025 at 11:51 AM
I found Jurgens' JLA run to be bland.

He tried to walk the line between the original humorous tone of the book and a more traditional action oriented tone. Trying to please both fan bases.

A reasonable approach, but one that often winds up pleasing nobody

SLW (Steff) posted on Aug. 15, 2025 at 2:44 PM
Aw, Walter, you can name me if you want to. I agree on this page! I like it too! And I don't think that every single page of Jurgens' run on JLA was bad. I just don't think the man deserves to sit pretty on any unearned pedestals, and in terms of how he handled the JLI-- he most definitely does not. But he did have moments in it I liked quite a lot.

But I think him writing Booster as a caveman is pretty awful; I absolutely think Booster's own creator should have respected his characterization more, especially since Dan himself established some of the more charming parts of it in Vol. 1. I do think Dan turning Ice into some vapid fangirl was lousy. And, as I think I mentioned, he ignored most -- if not all -- of Guy's better traits. (Bear in mind that I think Giffen and DeMatteis did a pretty bad job with Ted Kord and Guy Gardner too, though. I hardly venerate them, either.)

In fairness, I think I had also pointed out that I too appreciated Ted Kord being treated as less of a joke. If I didn't, I should have.

Dan's big problem was a lack of imagination. As Brandon says above, he tried to thread the line between the funny sitcom-style humor preceding him and the more traditional rock 'em-sock 'em comic plotting. Thing is: Dan's really only funny when he's channeling his dry wit. I think that's probably the midwesterner in him, because boy, I can recognize that tone.

He could have probably leveraged that, instead of trying -- and failing -- to find the humor in team dynamics. Mostly, everyone kind of comes across as actively disliking one another in his run, with rare exceptions. Aside when they're getting beaten half to death by Doomsday, you don't really get the feeling his version of the JLI is a family, and remain such even when they argue, which is something Giffen and DeMatteis did right.

Max Lord was also sort of ill-used. He'd reached a fairly good spot at the end of Breakdowns, as a character, only for Superman to charge in and treat him poorly. Another fan I talk with said she's surprised he didn't go full villain right around then, and honestly-- so am I. When you go from J'onn J'onzz calling you a good man to Superman in your face on the team you built -- regardless of original motivation -- that's a pretty mean kick in the crotch.

I do appreciate your point of view, Walter. You have indeed made me take second looks at things I might not have without you. I hope you don't feel my POV is a shot at you, as I'd never want to do that or to make you feel like I am.

 Boosterrific [Official Comment] posted on Aug. 15, 2025 at 6:36 PM
@SLW No need for any apologies. I don't take your opinions on Jurgens body of work as a personal attack. A diversity of viewpoints can be enlightening. (I should also probably mention that I wasn't trying to call you out on this. If I was going to take issue with your commentary, I'd have done it directly in private. I just thought it was interesting that your recent comments were pretty aligned with this particular issue.)

SLW (Steff) posted on Aug. 15, 2025 at 7:48 PM
Fair enough! I'm glad; I think if I didn't find some of Dan's creativity to be genuinely brilliant, I probably wouldn't get so nettled by where I believe his failures to be. And even though I quite like Superman as a character, I'm way more apt to get starry-eyed over Captain Marvel, which probably doesn't help when the Superman hero worship feels especially thick. 🤣 I mean, even beyond their fraught history and DC's constant foundering with knowing how to handle Cap.

Rob snow posted on Jul. 25, 2025 at 11:09 AM
This is my one favorite comic ever. No joke. I ca reread this forever. One of Teds best moments

SLW (Steff) posted on Jul. 25, 2025 at 11:52 AM
@Rob - Ted is fantastic and so incredibly overlooked. I loved this one for his brilliance getting spotlighted, just like I loved the way he kind of routed the Overmaster, too. AND saved Booster on a hail mary pass. DC didn't do too bad with him in the latest JLU, but they're obviously playing up Mr. Terrific more because of the film. Hopefully they'll remember how damn smart Ted really is and start shining a light on it more.

(Booster needed slapped around a little here in this storyline, yeah, but that sometimes happens. The boy has some real boundary issues; mostly it's people violating his and him being bad at enforcing them, but occasionally he also steps way over the line, too, and deserves a swat back to his side of it. For the Watsonian take. For the Doylist take, sometimes the writers like to use him as a mouthpiece without bothering to consider the bulk of his characterization.)

SLW (Steff) posted on Jul. 22, 2025 at 5:41 PM
Costume or civilian clothes? (Arguably, she was romancing him, but she still stabbed him more times in this timeline than she's kissed him. Which is fine by me, he can definitely do better. 🤣)

 Boosterrific [Official Comment] posted on Jul. 22, 2025 at 7:01 PM
That is *definitely* a costume. Civilian clothes, I would argue, as a general rule attempt to fit in with contemporary fashion trends. That's designed to stand out as far as possible. That boy wants to be seen!

SLW (Steff) posted on Jul. 22, 2025 at 7:37 PM
See, I'd venture civilian clothes are 'clothes you're not likely (or looking) to fight in'. I mean, there's a difference between being publicity-minded and and being 'on duty'. At least every other time we've seen him wearing this, he was definitely not what I'd call officially 'on duty', though yeah, of *course* that boy wants to be seen. XD When your whole skillset is basically 'superhero' or 'ex-football player', branding is about all you got left to bring home the bacon!

 Boosterrific [Official Comment] posted on Jul. 22, 2025 at 10:18 PM
Merriam-Webster defines "civilian" strictly as someone who is not in the armed or peacekeeping forces, and the United States Army recognizes "civilian clothes" as almost anything that isn't a defined uniform. Loosely speaking, most of DC's superheroes should be considered deputies of the law, and wear a uniform designating their special status to society-at-large. Therefore, a super hero wearing anything other than their IP trademarked outfit could be considered to be wearing "civilian clothes." I also concede all this would seem to apply to Booster here, as he is not obviously clad in his familiar 25th-century power-suit.

HOWEVER, Booster (1) isn't in the military, (2) has been known to change looks from time to time, and (3) is wearing an outfit clearly meant to evoke his traditional costume (and brand). Add that in this particular context, he is responding to Batman's summons wearing what you see, while all of his colleagues on the Justice League satellite are also dressed for "work." Booster is not shown changing outfits before going into action, so the presumption is that he is time travels to save the day in what he's already wearing. Therefore, even by your definition, I contend that he sure seems to be "looking to fight" in what you see him wearing here, so I will insist on calling it a costume (as I have before; see: "Los Angeles Casual" on the Boosterrific! list of power-suits) until such time as evidence in canon proves otherwise.

(I admit I'm probably being pointlessly argumentative on a purely semantic point, but "being pointlessly argumentative" is a key cornerstone in my personality matrix, and why else read superhero comic books if not to argue about their contents?)

Joe posted on Jul. 23, 2025 at 12:11 AM
Civilian. lol.

Rob snow posted on Jul. 23, 2025 at 12:14 AM
Short answer...nope. No booster nor in Justice league unlimited

 Boosterrific [Official Comment] posted on Jul. 23, 2025 at 1:27 AM
Well, crud.

SLW (Steff) posted on Jul. 23, 2025 at 7:28 AM
We wouldn't be comic book fans, buddy, if we didn't argue pointlessly about semantics. XD And anyway, who's to say they didn't summon him from a karaoke session anyway? He doesn't carry his powersuit in a ring, so it's entirely possible he got called to action while out doing non-hero things. Maybe he took a minute to change into the actual uniform/costume before time-traveling to save the world (again) after we see him vanish.

I can definitely say wearing civilian clothes (I suppose calling them street clothes also works) doesn't preclude a public servant (or possibly superhero) from going into action without the uniform when there's no time to run home and change into it. I was married to a rural police officer for many years, and many times he strapped his gunbelt on over his jeans and bolted out with his badge clipped to his belt. (And it's totally fine, really, to call this outfit a costume since we see it more than once and it's themed, but I think in-universe, it's probably really just one variation of Booster's street clothes. A 'notice who I am' outfit, sure, but still not meant for battle.)

SLW (Steff) posted on Jul. 11, 2025 at 11:53 AM
True facts: Is there anything they can't do? No, I think they're actually a really solid pair of heroes who have indeed helped save the world repeatedly (and led the charge to in a case or two), and I really wish DC would remember that. One's a literal genius with a more diverse skillset than Bruce Wayne and the other is certainly clever as hell and quick on his feet literally and mentally, never mind willing to take a heartbreaking amount of punishment in the line of self-appointed duty.

Hell, they're both really good heroes even solo, but they do make a pretty awesome combo when business gets serious. (And know how to have fun before it does.)

Rob snow posted on Jul. 11, 2025 at 1:19 PM
Ive always maintained they are serious about what they do, just not serious in HOW they do it

Brandon posted on Jul. 11, 2025 at 1:44 PM
I always found it amusing that on the cover of this issue all the leaguers are firing energy beams except poor Ice who's made a couple little snowballs to throw

Eskana posted on Jul. 11, 2025 at 1:44 PM
Great analyses, guys! Well said

SLW (Steff) posted on Jul. 9, 2025 at 6:46 PM
In fairness, you have an armada of people who are excited to tell you about any Booster-in-the-Wild sightings.

--which might make a pretty damn fun nature show ala Steve Irwin, actually.