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 Post subject: Re: If Booster gets revamped/rebooted...what do you want?
PostPosted: August 16th, 2011, 3:25 am 
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(...)and the return of Trixie.


Totally with that!

Also, I'm a huge Blue Beetle fan, but even I would prefer Ted to remain...err..."in limbo".
Specially since this mean they'd get rid of Jaime in someway...


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 Post subject: Re: If Booster gets revamped/rebooted...what do you want?
PostPosted: August 16th, 2011, 1:44 pm 
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My only sorrow regarding Ted is that if they were going to hit "reset" anyway I'd have liked to see him brought back, even just at the end of #47. I still maintain that if Booster knew there was no way of saving the status quo, he would try to save Ted.


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 Post subject: Re: If Booster gets revamped/rebooted...what do you want?
PostPosted: August 18th, 2011, 4:27 pm 
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Ted is a more interesting character dead than alive. Sorry all you Ted lovers but it's true. Blue Beetle II was not as rich as Batman, not as smart as The Atom, not as athletic as Booster Gold and less interesting than even G'nort. Ted brought Booster Gold down to a juvenile level that has finally been put away. With the lack of good writing talent in the DCU (yes they have some great ones but a lot more bad) it would only be a short matter of time before they became a big joke again, or even worse, a big gay joke that was never intended. Nope, Ted need to stay dead till there can be a big separation between the old Blue and Gold.

On another note I do have a way to bring Ted back without a huge event, traveling to hell or even upsetting continuity at all.


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 Post subject: Re: If Booster gets revamped/rebooted...what do you want?
PostPosted: August 18th, 2011, 6:58 pm 
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Jesster wrote:
Blue Beetle II was not as rich as Batman, not as smart as The Atom, not as athletic as Booster Gold and less interesting than even G'nort.

That seems awfully disparaging of Ted Kord. Maybe he wasn't your favorite character, but I suspect that a lot of what you say could apply to other characters as well. He also wasn't as invulnerable as Superman, pliable as Plastic Man, beautiful as Wonder Woman, or crazy as the Creeper. If you don't like Ted, that's fine (heck, I'm sure there are people who >gasp< don't like Booster Gold), but I don't agree that the character needs to be dead to keep him out of the hands of bad writers or make Booster better.

For the record I will admit that I am also not the biggest fan of Blue Beetle II (this site is BOOSTERRIFIC, not BLUE AND GOLD). Even at his KooeyKooeyKooey worst, I never wished him dead. I think bad writers -- or even lazy good ones --will sink anything to their level. That doesn't mean that you have to remove a character from existence to solve the problem.

Beetle and Booster were set up for a career resurrection before Ted was killed. Beetle had been separated from Booster for L.A.W. and then became a supporting character in BIRDS OF PREY. Sure Booster soared to new heights in 52 spinning out of INFINITE CRISIS, but that story in no way required Ted's death.

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 Post subject: Re: If Booster gets revamped/rebooted...what do you want?
PostPosted: August 18th, 2011, 7:04 pm 
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For that matter, the OMAC subplot of INFINITE CRISIS didn't "require" Ted's death (or anyone else's) to build up to Max Lord's murder by Wonder Woman. However, DC wanted to kill someone to up the ante, and they chose Ted because they thought it would resonate emotionally. Clearly, the writers were proven right in their selection. The emotional ripples continue.

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 Post subject: Re: If Booster gets revamped/rebooted...what do you want?
PostPosted: August 18th, 2011, 9:48 pm 
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Because they already killed him I think he should stay dead, I would never want them to kill a character off. I do stand by the statement that he is more interesting dead than alive because with Michelle's return it give Michael that tragic loss that helps to make him a better man which would be lost quickly with Ted's return. I have no doubt he will return at some point but it's too soon in Booster's after Ted evolution for it to happen. Again it all comes down to good writing and there are very few resurrections that are ever handled well.
The emotional ripples continue from Ted's death because of the evolution of Booster and thanks to the writing of Dan Jurgens.


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 Post subject: Re: If Booster gets revamped/rebooted...what do you want?
PostPosted: August 18th, 2011, 10:40 pm 
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Yes, that post I can agree with wholeheartedly. I think it's funny that you accept Michelle's return because Ted's death replaced her as the tragically lost figure in in Booster's life, but I don't disagree with you.

You know who should have stayed dead? Barry Allen. Bringing that guy back was a huge mistake. I'd rather that it not be duplicated with the late, martyred Ted Kord.

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 Post subject: Re: If Booster gets revamped/rebooted...what do you want?
PostPosted: August 19th, 2011, 1:56 pm 
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Agreed. Barry Allen was much more interesting to me dead than he is now alive. I know the first launch with Bart as the Flash floundered, but I think that was due to poor execuation than the inability of the character to resonate under the crimson cowl.

I do like Ted Kord and I think he is more interesting dead than alive. I think Jaime has potential as a compelling character and would like to see the legacy continue. But I like the continuation of continuity in general.

Of course, hitting the reset button with the new 52.... what really matters anymore?


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 Post subject: Re: If Booster gets revamped/rebooted...what do you want?
PostPosted: September 8th, 2011, 1:12 am 
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After reading JLI#1 there is one possible explanation that would make me hate the new costume a bit less:

(Fictional dialogue between Booster and Batman during the ride in JLI #1)
Batman: “New Costume...”
Booster: “Yeah..Don't know...but I felt like..I was missing something ...blue..”


Though of course this is not going to happen.


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 Post subject: Re: If Booster gets revamped/rebooted...what do you want?
PostPosted: September 8th, 2011, 2:33 pm 
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I do like Ted but I think I've grown tired of him. It's like when Giffin/DeMatteis were on BG. Instead of focusing their story on Booster finally being affected by Maxs' betrayal and return they went back to the tired "Booster has to re-mourn Ted" plot. The one that was already explored before in the series, twice! It just feels like the writers don't have any ideas of what to do with him outside being Boosters' friend.

If he did come back where would he fit in? If they were still using the Time Masters he'd be out of place since Rip has more knowledge in that field. Jaimes' mentor? He's had other people mentor him so it's not like it's a job Ted has to be physically there for, Jaime did fine with his notes.
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After reading JLI#1 there is one possible explanation that would make me hate the new costume a bit less:

(Fictional dialogue between Booster and Batman during the ride in JLI #1)
Batman: “New Costume...”
Booster: “Yeah..Don't know...but I felt like..I was missing something ...blue..”


Though of course this is not going to happen.


Didn't they use something like that to explain why Tim Drake changed into his red costume in 52?


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